Podcast:The Ringer-Verse Published On: Fri Dec 01 2023 Description: Ben and Jess are joined by Matt James to discuss 'The Last of Us Part II' and how soon is too soon for a remaster. They also discuss three recent indie games you may have missed, 'Cocoon,' 'Slay the Princess,' and 'Jusant' (15:38). Hosts: Ben Lindbergh and Jessica Clemons Guest: Matt James Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman Additional Production: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices