Podcast:The Bulwark Podcast Published On: Thu Jun 23 2022 Description: Ron Johnson has no good explanation for why his staff tried to hand fake electors to Pence. Plus, the Jan 6 hearings' trickle down effect on Trump's standing, racial prejudice in today's conservatism, and Dem candidates decoupling from Biden. Bill Kristol joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices