Podcast:Fresh Air Published On: Wed Aug 02 2023 Description: House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has faced rebellions in his chamber, from the ultra conservative Freedom Caucus. Another hard right group, "the Twenty," is even more disruptive. These groups could lead us to a government to shutdown in the fall. Terry Gross spoke with New York Times congressional correspondent Annie Karni.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy