Podcast:The Truth of the Matter Published On: Wed Jul 08 2020 Description: In this episode, Andrew invites CSIS's Sarah Ladislaw and Nikos Tsafos to explain how a new U.S. international energy policy should look, and climate change’s role within it. They also discuss the inspiration behind and future of the new CSIS initiative, Climate Smart Foreign Policy. Sarah Ladislaw is senior vice president and director and senior fellow of the Energy Security and Climate Change Program at CSIS. Nikos Tsafos is a senior fellow with the Energy Security and Climate Change Program at CSIS.