If you didn't know that the FBI has forensic artists in their vast resource pool, you aren't alone. Meet Lisa Bailey. As an artist and forensic sculptor, Lisa was tasked for more than two decades with creating age progression imagers, as well as face approximation, the practice of using human skulls to try and identify unknown people and crime victims. She started her journey with the FBI in the shadow of 9/11, where one of her first assignments was working on the case against Zacarias Moussaoui, the alleged 20th hijacker of the 9/11 attacks. Her book Clay & Bones is out on paperback now! Get it here: www.lisabaileyauthor.com JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2024 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ken Behr's life was like a movie. He spent years smuggling marijuana and cocaine all over the United States. He was really good at what he did. Eventually though, his operation came crashing down, and he went to work for the DEA. Now, he’s an author who's candid and open about his story of drugs, money and many years of evading the law. In this edition of DEVIANT Off Script, Ken opens up to host Andrew Iden about his story. Get Ken's book: https://onestepovertheline.com/ JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2024 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Very few places can match the pressure, the violence and the bizarre logic of a US prison. Mike Cantrell is one of the few who understands how it all works, and has spent his career making it work. As a state and federal corrections officer, he's seen and been through it all. And as the host of The Prison Officer Podcast (https://theprisonofficer.com/), he brings his wild and unbelievable stories into the light. In this episode of DEVIANT Off Script, Mike wows hosts Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden with the story of his life. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2024 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Paul Vercammen has seen plenty in his journalism career. Based in CNN’s LA Bureau, he had a front row seat to wildfires, earthquakes, and some of America’s most biggest celebrity trials. OJ Simpson, Robert Durst, Michael Jackson, and the Led Zeppelin copyright case, just to name a few. Paul joins hosts Andrew Iden and Dan Szematowicz to take you inside the courtroom.  JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2024 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bob Motta is the creator of Defense Diaries, one of the fastest growing names in true crime. From John Wayne Gacy to corrupt cops to his detailed coverage and legal analysis of the Delphi murders, Bob delivers true crime news and analysis through the lens of an experienced defense attorney. Bob joins Dan and Andrew to talk about all of that, and more. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit and follow Defense Diaries: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DefenseDiariesPod Podcasts: https://linktr.ee/DefenseDiaries Social: https://www.instagram.com/defensediaries and https://www.tiktok.com/@defensediariespodcast https://defensediaries.com Apple Podcasts: Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2024 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The holiday madness is here, and that goes for us here at DEVIANT too. Andrew and Dan share a quick update on what our holiday plans for the show are, and what you can expect through the new year. We also preview some of the amazing conversations you can expect. That includes deep-cover operatives, and true crime luminaries. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2024 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Stacey Honowitz spent 36 years in the Florida State Attorney's Office, prosecuting some of the worst of the worst: those who prey on children. Dan and Andrew talk with Stacey about her incredible career, and her current work in educating children, teens and adults on recognizing and stopping abuse. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Explore Stacey's books: https://www.amazon.com/Books-Stacey-Honowitz/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3AStacey+Honowitz Stacey's Insta: https://www.instagram.com/staceybhonowitz/ Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2024 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Part 3/3) It's the last episode of our exploration, and hosts Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden give their final takes on this mystery, talk about who may also have been a victim, and explore some of the possible suspects. Also, some great sound from family members of Alicia Showalter-Reynolds that we weren't able to get to in the first two episodes. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2024 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For 13 years, Tom Allman had his hands full. He was the legendary Sheriff of Mendocino County in California. It's a massive part of the state, and is one the country's most prolific locales for growing marijuana. Sheriff Allman talks to hosts Andrew Iden and Dan Szematowicz about keeping the peace in the modern Wild West, managing the steady decriminalization of marijuana on a local level and the right way to police in the 21st Century. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2024 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Part 2/3) Who killed Alicia Reynolds? Who targeted women along a Virginia highway? Who is the Route 29 Stalker? As Alicia's family continues to process after all these years, Andrew Iden and Dan Szematowicz explore some of the possibilities of who it may be. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2024 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From NPR to Hard Copy to NBC to Extra, and from OJ to Heidi Fleiss to Pamela Smart to Kenneth Bianchi, Diane Dimond's reporting career has let her witness some of the biggest stories of our time. But perhaps she's best known for her investigative work into the molestation allegations against Michael Jackson, and the investigation and trial to come. Diane joins DEVIANT hosts Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden to get into her incredible career. Get Diane's books here: https://dianedimond.com/books/ JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2024 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Part 1 /3) In the mid-90s, a mysterious man is attempting to flag down women drivers around the Route 29 corridor in Virginia. At first, nobody thinks much of it. Nobody makes the connections. And then, Alicia Showalter Reynolds disappears off that very road. What follows is great tragedy, and deep mystery. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2024 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

To stop the most notorious spy in US history, Eric O'Neill went undercover, and became the tip of the spear. His part in catching Robert Hanssen, an FBI agent passing highly classified and damaging information to Russia, is legendary, and the subject of the 2007 film "Breach." In this episode of DEVIANT Off Script, Eric and host Andrew Iden talk about how he helped get Hanssen, and his career in counterintelligence and cybersecurity. It's an incredible, eye-opening story you have to hear to believe. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Buy Gray Day, Eric's thrilling book on spies and spy hunting here: https://ericoneill.net/books/gray-day/ Learn more about Eric here: https://ericoneill.net/ Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2024 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In our first episode of DEVIANT Off Script, hosts Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden get to know the life and career of former Chicago homicide detective Mike Hammond. Over his career, he's seen it all. Every kind of crime scene, every kind of crime. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Detective Stories with Mike Hammond: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8hNRxWgpEjibTgrAyK9pkUI43CqASpU3&si=cBGM9_GZWwXhnr6G Copyright 2024 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

DEVIANT is going to two episodes a week! Hosts Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden breaks down what to expect, and how you can participate too. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's Halloween, and in this special episode of DEVIANT, hosts Andrew Iden and Dan Szematowicz tell three of their favorite, kinda-maybe-true original ghost stories. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Now you know everything we know about the 2014 killings of Russell and Shirley Dermond. So what do you think? In our Off Script episode, we give our parting thoughts on this case, read yours and play some of the sound we weren't able to get to in the main story. Also, a SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT that we think you'll like. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit our TikTok Instagram and YouTube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

By now, you know many of the details of these crimes. The place, the time and what was done to Russell and Shirley Dermond. What we still don't know is the why and the who. In the final chapter of our exploration of the Lake Oconee murders, we consult with former members of the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, and put together a profile of that who, and that why. Can we get closer to the actual truth? JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The crime scene found at the home of Russell and Shirley Dermond was bizarre...among the most bizarre many in law enforcement has ever seen. For years, no evidence of significance was found. But then, a breakthrough happens that has a chance to change the entire trajectory of the investigation. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Russell Dermond is dead, murdered and decapitated in his home. His wife Shirley is gone, with no sign of where she is, and whether or not she's alive. As Sheriff Howard Sills and his team of deputies search rural Georgia, word spreads around town, and rumors run rampant. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the new series of DEVIANT, we explore the mysterious, bizarre and unsolved murders of Russell and Shirley Dermond. In May of 2014, they were murdered in their home in the upscale community of Lake Oconee, GA. This is the story of a crime without apparent motive, and the man who's made it his mission to bring the killer, or killers, to justice. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As we wrap up our exploration of the Anthony Sowell case, we answer your questions, read your comments and play some great sound you haven't heard yet. Also, we unveil the next story we're taking on. JOiN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Anthony Sowell is now in court, on trial for his life. The evidence is overwhelming, with witnesses giving unforgettable testimony. What does "justice" look like for such monstrous actions? Will Sowell take responsibility? Will police take their share of it? ANNOUNCEMENT: In next week's episode, we'll be answering your questions and reading your comments. Leave them in the comments on your favorite podcast platform, DM us via our socials @deviant.podcast (Instagram and TikTok) or reach out through our Patreon: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Serial killers aren't created in a vacuum, and that goes for Anthony Sowell too. Everything about his life, up until the time police discovered the bodies of 11 women in and around his Cleveland home, was a series of warning signs. His childhood, his earlier crimes...everything. In this episode of DEVIANT, we learn the Sowell's origin story, and how he came to be. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Special thanks to Dr. Cheryl Arutt! She's great, and you can find her here: https://drcherylarutt.com and on her Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/askdrcheryl/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Serial killer Anthony Sowell could have been stopped much earlier than he was, but at multiple points and for multiple reasons, the system failed. Chance, systemic neglect and incompetence all played their roles. In this episode, we'll learn about the most egregious missed opportunity...the one that allowed him to go on killing. The police had him, but they let him go, and never looked back. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Cleveland police finally learn that there's a serial killer at work right under their noses, and his name is Anthony Sowell. As the full horror of what's in Sowell's house becomes clear, a neighborhood is in shock, and the families of missing women wait for news. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the summer of 2009, a horrible smell was spreading across Imperial Avenue, in the Mt. Pleasant neighborhood of Cleveland, OH. The people who lived there thought it was coming from the local sausage factory. They were wrong. That autumn, police walked into the house next door, the one belonging to Anthony Sowell. What they find inside is a nightmare...a serial killer operating right in front of them. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nobody Should Believe Me is an amazing true crime show focused on the bizzare phenomenon known as Munchausen by Proxy, a disorder that can lead to crimes against children. Through four seasons, host Andrea Dunlop (a friend of DEVIANT) delves into these unbelievable - and unfrogettable - stories. This is the first episode of Season 4. To hear the rest of the season as well as prior seasons, follow Nobody Should Believe Me wherever you get your shows. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Unbelievably weird and wild details...those are everywhere in the stories of Israel Keyes, and in our first edition of "DEVIANT: Off Script," we share some of the things we didn't have room for in the series. Also, we answer YOUR questions, share your comments, and reveal who our next subject is...our next deviant. Join our Patreon: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Serial Killer Israel Keyes enacts his final act of control, and investigators are now on their own. It's the final episode of our exploration of Keyes, and we give our answer to the big question: just how far did Israel Keyes go? JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As investigators continue to chip away at Israel Keyes, searching for the truth, he talks about traveling to Texas after he kills Samantha Koenig, and completely losing control. And in a dramatic courtroom appearance, all hell breaks loose. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Law enforcement now knows that Israel Keyes is a serial killer, and that he operates in a way they've never seen before. But what don't they know? They focus their efforts on getting Keyes to talk about new crimes and new victims. And he does...to an extent. And then, authorities make an incredible - and terrifying - discovery inside his jail cell. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After a massive manhunt, police arrest the man they believe is responsible for the 2012 abduction of Samantha Koenig from Alaska. Israel Keyes is a brand new name to them, and as he confesses the truth about what he did to Samantha, and hints at many more crimes, the authorities get to work. JOIN OUR PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/DeviantPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Serial killer Israel Keyes had an incredibly effective MO, and it kept him under the radar for years. But that all came to an end in a traffic stop argument. This is the story of how that happened, and our launching point into the next phase of our quest to figure how far Israel Keyes actually went. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Israel Keyes wasn't born a murderer. But his extremely unusual early years are an important part of understanding who he became, and how he embraced the monster.   JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Serial killer Israel Keyes wasn't on anyone's radar. What he did was completely unknown, and law enforcement had never heard of him. But all of that changes when he starts talking. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

DEVIANT, a new true crime podcast tells good stories about bad people who do very bad things. In this preview, hosts Andrew Iden and Dan Szematowicz talks about what you'll hear in the show, how it came to be and what to expect in every episode. Also, more on their first series: chasing the truth about serial killer Israel Keyes. They'll explore his crimes through the words of those who knew him, those who caught him, and Keyes himself. The first two episodes of Deviant premier on Tuesday, June 25th. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From the award-winning creators of Down The Hill: The Delphi Murders, comes DEVIANT, a new true crime series that dives into the dark corners of what human beings are capable of. Hosts Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden tell good stories about bad people who do very bad things.  Some people are wired for good. Some are wired for bad. And some are wired... to be Deviant.  Follow the show wherever you listen and across socials @deviant.podcast (IG, TT, YT) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices