Penn Jillette – Magic, Tricks, and Us
Penn Jillette – Magic, Tricks, and Us  
Podcast: Clear+Vivid with Alan Alda
Published On: Tue Jan 19 2021
Description: When we see a magic trick, is the magician fooling us, or are we fooling ourselves? Penn Jillette, the talking half of the magic team Penn and Teller, tells Alan how tricks are a test of how we process reality.Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/clearandvivid